The kthread calling this function is freezable after commit 03a3bb7ae6
("hwrng: core - Freeze khwrng thread during suspend") is applied.
Unfortunately, this function uses wait_event_interruptible() but doesn't
check for the kthread being woken up by the fake freezer signal. When a
user suspends the system, this kthread will wake up and if it fails the
entropy size check it will immediately go back to sleep and not go into
the freezer. Eventually, suspend will fail because the task never froze
and a warning message like this may appear:
PM: suspend entry (deep)
Filesystems sync: 0.000 seconds
Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done.
OOM killer disabled.
Freezing remaining freezable tasks ...
Freezing of tasks failed after 20.003 seconds (1 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):
hwrng R running task 0 289 2 0x00000020
[<c08c64c4>] (__schedule) from [<c08c6a10>] (schedule+0x3c/0xc0)
[<c08c6a10>] (schedule) from [<c05dbd8c>] (add_hwgenerator_randomness+0xb0/0x100)
[<c05dbd8c>] (add_hwgenerator_randomness) from [<bf1803c8>] (hwrng_fillfn+0xc0/0x14c [rng_core])
[<bf1803c8>] (hwrng_fillfn [rng_core]) from [<c015abec>] (kthread+0x134/0x148)
[<c015abec>] (kthread) from [<c01010e8>] (ret_from_fork+0x14/0x2c)
Check for a freezer signal here and skip adding any randomness if the
task wakes up because it was frozen. This should make the kthread freeze
properly and suspend work again.
Fixes: 03a3bb7ae6 ("hwrng: core - Freeze khwrng thread during suspend")
Reported-by: Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>
Tested-by: Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>
Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Provide a version of the core AES transform to the aegis128 SIMD
code that does not rely on the special AES instructions, but uses
plain NEON instructions instead. This allows the SIMD version of
the aegis128 driver to be used on arm64 systems that do not
implement those instructions (which are not mandatory in the
architecture), such as the Raspberry Pi 3.
Since GCC makes a mess of this when using the tbl/tbx intrinsics
to perform the sbox substitution, preload the Sbox into v16..v31
in this case and use inline asm to emit the tbl/tbx instructions.
Clang does not support this approach, nor does it require it, since
it does a much better job at code generation, so there we use the
intrinsics as usual.
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Acked-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Provide an accelerated implementation of aegis128 by wiring up the
SIMD hooks in the generic driver to an implementation based on NEON
intrinsics, which can be compiled to both ARM and arm64 code.
This results in a performance of 2.2 cycles per byte on Cortex-A53,
which is a performance increase of ~11x compared to the generic
code.
Reviewed-by: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add some plumbing to allow the AEGIS128 code to be built with SIMD
routines for acceleration.
Reviewed-by: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add support for the missing ciphertext stealing part of the XTS-AES
specification, which permits inputs of any size >= the block size.
Cc: Pascal van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com>
Cc: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>
Tested-by: Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Return -EINVAL on an attempt to set the authsize to 0 with an auth.
algorithm with a non-zero digestsize (i.e. anything but digest_null)
as authenticating the data and then throwing away the result does not
make any sense at all.
The digestsize zero exception is for use with digest_null for testing
purposes only.
Signed-off-by: Pascal van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@verimatrix.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
crypto/streebog_generic.c:162:17: warning:
Pi defined but not used [-Wunused-const-variable=]
crypto/streebog_generic.c:151:17: warning:
Tau defined but not used [-Wunused-const-variable=]
They are never used, so can be removed.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
crypto/aes_generic.c:64:18: warning:
rco_tab defined but not used [-Wunused-const-variable=]
It is never used, so can be removed.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Acked-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
This fixes the following Sphinx warning:
Documentation/crypto/crypto_engine.rst:2:
WARNING: Explicit markup ends without a blank line; unexpected unindent.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Neuschäfer <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Reference counters are preferred to use refcount_t instead of
atomic_t.
This is because the implementation of refcount_t can prevent
overflows and detect possible use-after-free.
So convert atomic_t ref counters to refcount_t.
Signed-off-by: Chuhong Yuan <hslester96@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The hwrng_fill() function can run while devices are suspending and
resuming. If the hwrng is behind a bus such as i2c or SPI and that bus
is suspended, the hwrng may hang the bus while attempting to add some
randomness. It's been observed on ChromeOS devices with suspend-to-idle
(s2idle) and an i2c based hwrng that this kthread may run and ask the
hwrng device for randomness before the i2c bus has been resumed.
Let's make this kthread freezable so that we don't try to touch the
hwrng during suspend/resume. This ensures that we can't cause the hwrng
backing driver to get into a bad state because the device is guaranteed
to be resumed before the hwrng kthread is thawed.
Cc: Andrey Pronin <apronin@chromium.org>
Cc: Duncan Laurie <dlaurie@chromium.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>
Cc: Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>
Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
In the process of turning caam/qi into a library, the check of
MCFGR[QI] bit has been inadvertently dropped.
Fix the condition for DPAA 1.x QI detection, which should be:
MCFGR[QI] && !MCFGR[DPAA2]
A check in the library exit point is currently not needed,
since the list of registered algorithms is empty.
While here, silence the library initialization abort - since jr.c
calls it unconditionally.
Fixes: 1b46c90c8e ("crypto: caam - convert top level drivers to libraries")
Signed-off-by: Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Directly return error in the first loop in hisi_zip_create_req_q.
Fixes: 62c455ca85 ("crypto: hisilicon - add HiSilicon ZIP accelerator support")
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Fix to use proper type of argument for dma_addr_t and size_t.
Fixes: 263c9959c9 ("crypto: hisilicon - add queue management driver for HiSilicon QM module")
Reported-by: kbuild test robot <lkp@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Exercising CPU hotplug on a 5.2 kernel with recent padata fixes from
cryptodev-2.6.git in an 8-CPU kvm guest...
# modprobe tcrypt alg="pcrypt(rfc4106(gcm(aes)))" type=3
# echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
# echo c > /sys/kernel/pcrypt/pencrypt/parallel_cpumask
# modprobe tcrypt mode=215
...caused the following crash:
BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000000
#PF: supervisor read access in kernel mode
#PF: error_code(0x0000) - not-present page
PGD 0 P4D 0
Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP PTI
CPU: 2 PID: 134 Comm: kworker/2:2 Not tainted 5.2.0-padata-base+ #7
Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS 1.12.0-<snip>
Workqueue: pencrypt padata_parallel_worker
RIP: 0010:padata_reorder+0xcb/0x180
...
Call Trace:
padata_do_serial+0x57/0x60
pcrypt_aead_enc+0x3a/0x50 [pcrypt]
padata_parallel_worker+0x9b/0xe0
process_one_work+0x1b5/0x3f0
worker_thread+0x4a/0x3c0
...
In padata_alloc_pd, pd->cpu is set using the user-supplied cpumask
instead of the effective cpumask, and in this case cpumask_first picked
an offline CPU.
The offline CPU's reorder->list.next is NULL in padata_reorder because
the list wasn't initialized in padata_init_pqueues, which only operates
on CPUs in the effective mask.
Fix by using the effective mask in padata_alloc_pd.
Fixes: 6fc4dbcf02 ("padata: Replace delayed timer with immediate workqueue in padata_reorder")
Signed-off-by: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Remove unused includes of linux/pci.h.
Signed-off-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Acked-by: Gary R Hook <gary.hook@amd.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
ccp-dev.h uses dma_direction, which is defined in linux/dma-direction.h.
Include that explicitly instead of relying on it being included via
linux/pci.h, since ccp-dev.h requires nothing else from linux/pci.h.
Similarly, ccp-dmaengine.c uses dma_get_mask(), which is defined in
linux/dma-mapping.h, so include that explicitly since it requires nothing
else from linux/pci.h.
A future patch will remove the includes of linux/pci.h where it is not
needed.
Signed-off-by: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Acked-by: Gary R Hook <gary.hook@amd.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Acked-by: Jamie Iles <jamie@jamieiles.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Acked-by: Antoine Tenart <antoine.tenart@bootlin.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use devm_platform_ioremap_resource() to simplify the code a bit.
This is detected by coccinelle.
Reported-by: Hulk Robot <hulkci@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: YueHaibing <yuehaibing@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Based on seqiv, IPsec ESP and rfc4543/rfc4106 the assoclen can be 16 or
20 bytes.
From esp4/esp6, assoclen is sizeof IP Header. This includes spi, seq_no
and extended seq_no, that is 8 or 12 bytes.
In seqiv, to asscolen is added the IV size (8 bytes).
Therefore, the assoclen, for rfc4543, should be restricted to 16 or 20
bytes, as for rfc4106.
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add Zhou Wang as a maintainer for HiSilicon QM and ZIP controller driver.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Reviewed-by: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
HiSilicon ZIP engine driver uses debugfs to provide debug information,
the usage can be found in /Documentation/ABI/testing/debugfs-hisi-zip.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add debugfs descriptions for HiSilicon ZIP and QM driver.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
HiSilicon ZIP engine supports PCI SRIOV. This patch enable this feature.
User can enable VFs and pass through them to VM, same ZIP driver can work
in VM to provide ZLIB and GZIP algorithm by crypto acomp interface.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The HiSilicon ZIP accelerator implements the zlib and gzip algorithm. It
uses Hisilicon QM as the interface to the CPU.
This patch provides PCIe driver to the accelerator and registers it to
crypto acomp interface. It also uses sgl as data input/output interface.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Shiju Jose <shiju.jose@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Kenneth Lee <liguozhu@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Hao Fang <fanghao11@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
HiSilicon accelerators in Hip08 use same hardware scatterlist for data format.
We support it in this module.
Specific accelerator drivers can use hisi_acc_create_sgl_pool to allocate
hardware SGLs ahead. Then use hisi_acc_sg_buf_map_to_hw_sgl to get one
hardware SGL and pass related information to hardware SGL.
The DMA address of mapped hardware SGL can be passed to SGL src/dst field
in QM SQE.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
QM is a general IP used by HiSilicon accelerators. It provides a general
PCIe interface for the CPU and the accelerator to share a group of queues.
A QM integrated in an accelerator provides queue management service.
Queues can be assigned to PF and VFs, and queues can be controlled by
unified mailboxes and doorbells. Specific task request are descripted by
specific description buffer, which will be controlled and pass to related
accelerator IP by QM.
This patch adds a QM driver used by the accelerator driver to access
the QM hardware.
Signed-off-by: Zhou Wang <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Kenneth Lee <liguozhu@hisilicon.com>
Signed-off-by: Shiju Jose <shiju.jose@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Hao Fang <fanghao11@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Reviewed-by: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The crypto engine initializes its kworker thread to FIFO-99 (when
requesting RT priority), reduce this to FIFO-50.
FIFO-99 is the very highest priority available to SCHED_FIFO and
it not a suitable default; it would indicate the crypto work is the
most important work on the machine.
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To be consistent with other CAAM modules, caamhash should return 0
instead of -ENODEV in case CAAM has no MDHA.
Based on commit 1b46c90c8e ("crypto: caam - convert top level drivers to libraries")
the value returned by entry point is never checked and
the exit point is always executed.
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To know if a registration succeeded added a new struct,
caam_akcipher_alg, that keeps, also, the registration status.
This status is updated in caam_pkc_init and verified in
caam_pkc_exit to unregister an algorithm.
Fixes: 1b46c90c8e ("crypto: caam - convert top level drivers to libraries")
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Commit 1b46c90c8e ("crypto: caam - convert top level drivers to libraries")
changed entry and exit points behavior for caamalg,
caamalg_qi, caamalg_qi2, caamhash, caampkc, caamrng.
For example, previously caam_pkc_init() and caam_pkc_exit() were
module entry/exit points. This means that if an error would happen
in caam_pkc_init(), then caam_pkc_exit() wouldn't have been called.
After the mentioned commit, caam_pkc_init() and caam_pkc_exit()
are manually called - from jr.c. caam_pkc_exit() is called
unconditionally, even if caam_pkc_init() failed.
Added a global variable to keep the status of the algorithm
registration and free of resources.
The exit point of caampkc/caamrng module is executed only if the
registration was successful. Therefore we avoid double free of
resources in case the algorithm registration failed.
Fixes: 1b46c90c8e ("crypto: caam - convert top level drivers to libraries")
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Check the return value of the hardware registration for caam_rng and free
resources in case of failure.
Fixes: e24f7c9e87 ("crypto: caam - hwrng support")
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Fuzz testing uncovered an issue when |user key| > |derived key|.
Derived key generation has to be fixed in two cases:
1. Era >= 6 (DKP is available)
DKP cannot be used with immediate input key if |user key| > |derived key|,
since the resulting descriptor (after DKP execution) would be invalid -
having a few bytes from user key left in descriptor buffer
as incorrect opcodes.
Fix DKP usage both in standalone hmac and in authenc algorithms.
For authenc the logic is simplified, by always storing both virtual
and dma key addresses.
2. Era < 6
The same case (|user key| > |derived key|) fails when DKP
is not available.
Make sure gen_split_key() dma maps max(|user key|, |derived key|),
since this is an in-place (bidirectional) operation.
Signed-off-by: Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Update alginfo struct to keep both virtual and dma key addresses,
so that descriptors have them at hand.
One example where this is needed is in the xcbc(aes) shared descriptors,
which are updated in current patch.
Another example is the upcoming fix for DKP.
Signed-off-by: Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Update share descriptor for rfc4106 to skip instructions in case
cryptlen is zero. If no instructions are jumped the DECO hangs and a
timeout error is thrown.
Signed-off-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>